10 thoughts on “How come some saltwater fishing reels don’t have line guides (casting reels)?

  1. If you’re talking about a surf rod. you dont need them. all they’re used for is to lob a hookset out past the breaker waves.

  2. There is normally a deeper recess to the reel when no guide so there is no longer the necessity for an even spread.,or experienced fishers can guide the line themselves when reeling in.happy fishing.

  3. My Penn 330 casts farther without a guide, but you have to thumb the line when reeling in. You get used to it quickly.

  4. You have to train your fingers to move the line back and forth in order to spool it evenly as you reel it in. There is a definite advantage in distance of a cast this way because of the lower number of moving parts. and lower friction on the line.

  5. Tom pretty much hit the nail on the head.
    When you reel it up, you just have to get used to moving your thumb back and forth. It takes some practice, but once you get the movement down, its easy.
    The reason that some don’t have levelwinds is that it causes friction and slows the speed of the reel down when casted. This is for surf casting when they are used for casting long distances.
    Another reason that some don’t as they are used as a heavy duty reel for offshore use, is that alot of levelwinds can’t take the heavy pressure put on them from some of the bigger fish off shore when they pull the drag out fast. Ive seen some of the cheaper 4/0 reels that have a levelwind, and only the cheap ones have a levelwind in that style reel. Ive seen a brand new reel like that become worthless after one king mackeral hits the line. Stripped the levelwind and locked it up, and because the levelwind locked up, it couldn’t let line out fast enough to keep up with the fish and broke off.

  6. Level winder right?

    I think that one reason is that the saltwater reels are made to stand up to a lot of wear and tear, and the level winder is an extra thing that is easily broken. I have a few level winder reels for light line, but if the fish is big or powerful enough to pull the drag out and I put my thumb on the spool with the drag going out I worry that my thumb might get caught in the level winder. On a slightly big reel, like an Ocea Jigger 3000, I wouldn’t want to put my thumb on the spool because if I did get my thumb caught, I might lose it.

  7. You’re talking about the level wind right? well many of the larger saltwater reels don’t need them for a few reasons, firstly the line doesn’t need to be leveled perfectly because you aren’t actually casting with it, it allows line to come off the spool at a greater speed without, and the last thing its only a rough leveling you need on such large reel.

  8. we thumb it on evenly, and the reason theres no level wind is because when offshore its very often you hang a runner and it rips the line off the reel so fast that the level wind cant keep up w/ the fish and you can have a mess in reel, fish can get off.

  9. your bigger bait casting reels do not have line guides on them because a big fish will tear the heck out of it. you work the line back and forth with your thumb. smaller bait casters, like most used for bass, have line guides to even the line on the reel as it is reeled in. bait casting reels are the strongest type of reel produced. they are essentially a winch.

  10. some saltwater fish are very fast,when taking out line, plastic gears for the lever winders (line guildes) can break and locking up the reel, braking the line. i have seen this on king fish,shark,rays,tarpon

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